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Loken Therakir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Loken Therakir on 21/06/2011 14:00:34
A lot of dumbasses in here yelling at OP to stop whining. How about learning some reading comprehension?
On topic:
As I see it the only possible thing that could be a problem is, as stated by others, the sponsored items since their have direct, real-life worth and is not covered by any ToS or EULA or whatever to stay under the ownership of CCP (although that would be hilarious weird - running with a graphics card owned by CCP!). This would be hot water if anyone were enough of a spoilsport to bring it up in a legal setting.
However! Are we really talking about betting here? Sure, prizes were given away, but no money on your side moved to CCP to be eligible for these prizes. I'm not a lawyer, but I think it could be argued that it is not covered by gambling laws at all.
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Loken Therakir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Chapelle
Has there been a transaction? Some would say our monthly subscription fees would count as such.
Forgot about monthly transaction. However, I think any half-competent lawyer could easily show that the monthly transaction is primarily for other benefits than gambling and that being able to cast a bet is a fringe side-effect not directly thought of by neither seller nor buyer upon the time of the transaction. Thus the buyer of the subscription will have a hard time proving that he made the transaction in good faith specifically for entering a bet.
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Loken Therakir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Loken Therakir on 21/06/2011 14:26:08
Originally by: Randomize All
Christ.
Just phone the ****ing police will ya?
Can you do that?
Let us know how it goes.
I think you will find that most posts are to the effect of _not_ wanting this brought up with the police. Also, there is good reason to believe this would be a civil case, which mean you would have to sue CCP or HYDRA (lol) to find out how it would hold up in court. Good luck finding somebody wanting to do that just to "find out how it would hold up" instead of speculating.
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Loken Therakir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:15:00 -
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Fumb Duck, love your name, it warned me to the lack of intelligence I could expect from your post!
Could we please get some reading comprehension in here so dumb ****s don't go around thinking it is another thread to act superior and laugh at "whiners" in without actually reading what the thread is ABOUT? Seriously, jeez, it is like a kindergarten in here with all the kids running around trying to act smart in intelligent discussions.
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Loken Therakir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Loken Therakir on 21/06/2011 15:52:48
Originally by: Argosus
they may have metagamed part or all of their way to the finals but so what? its not against the rules and many other teams where trying to do the same.
The point, Argosus, that you and many others horribly fails to grasp when you tl;dr the OP and the rest of the thread, is that it very well could be against the rules of Real Life! (italicized for Great Effect!). The problem doesn't only touch on the final match, as you pointed out, but metagaming in general when real money (in the form of real prizes) are involved.
I personally loved the EVE-feel of the final match, but the problem is if this could actually have real life ramifications since real companies contributed real prizes to real gambling in real life.
I am making the point that I don't think it does, but unfortunately I'm not a lawyer and certainly not an expert on international laws (EVE does have subscribers and holdings in different countries). What I would like the most is if all of this didn't legally count as gambling. But unfortunately when real money is involved, the risk of it being so is increased tremendously.
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Loken Therakir
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Randomize All
Even trolls have a purpose, this thread does not.
Objection!!! You're honor, thats a contradiction!
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Loken Therakir
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:30:00 -
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Edited by: Loken Therakir on 22/06/2011 04:33:32
Originally by: Argosus
EVE Online is a video game (italicized, bolded and underlined for Great Effect!)
I think we have something great going on here, keep it up! (italicized for Great Effect!)
To keep the thread rolling: it doesn't matter that EVE is a video game, it doesn't make it exempt from the rules and regulations of real life where they apply. Even a ****** knows that making a video game containing, for example, highly illegal pictures (imagine some yourself) wouldn't make the pictures magically legal because it appeared in a video game ;)
Same for gambling in a video game where real money is involved. Doesn't make it exempt from real laws just because its a video game (italicized for Great Emphasis!)
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